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Heard an interesting story on VPR today...  

tickles4us 62M
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11/12/2016 10:24 pm

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Heard an interesting story on VPR today...


It was about laughter. You may have noticed on NPR how they often tie several stories together and that is what they did today. The parts I heard (I don't know if I heard the beginning or started listening part way through) started with laughter on sitcom shows or was it about whether animals laugh? I forget which came first... probably the animals. It was an interesting story or series of stories.

So do you think animals laugh? Many people don't think much about it at all. Others study these kind of things, some with tax payer dollars. Do you think tax payer dollars should be spent on studying things like whether or not animals laugh or do you just not give a shit about such frivolous shit? It seems many in the scientific community have come to learn that to come to a conclusion that animals laugh is a no no. It seems there is a community that thinks that thinking that an animal can laugh is too close to making them human like. After all, we all know that only humans and angels can experience things like emotions isn't that Right. We wouldn't want to think that an animal could experience an emotion would we... Right. What would that mean to the world? That a mere animal could experience the emotional range of feelings that a human could... why that would be lifting them above the mere level of having been put there for the use of man.

(I was looking up the spelling for a word just a moment ago and when I turned on my spell checker gadget it popped up the new word feature as it does and showed "resurrect", sometimes I wonder about how it comes up with things. Anyhow... )

I wonder where that ideology could have come from? Below is from the 1611 King James Version of a "familiar" book.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring foorth aboundantly the mouing creature that hath life, and foule that may flie aboue the earth in the open firmament of heauen.

21 And God created great whales, and euery liuing creature that moueth, which the waters brought forth aboundantly after their kinde, and euery winged foule after his kinde: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitfull, and multiply, and fill the waters in the Seas, and let foule multiply in the earth.

23 And the euening and the morning were the fift day.

24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the liuing creature after his kinde, cattell, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kinde: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kinde, and cattell after their kinde, and euery thing that creepeth vpon the earth, after his kinde: and God saw that it was good.

26 ¶ And God said, Let vs make man in our Image, after our likenesse: and let them haue dominion ouer the fish of the sea, and ouer the foule of the aire, and ouer the cattell, and ouer all the earth, and ouer euery creeping thing that creepeth vpon the earth.

Did you notice it says "in our Image, after our likenesse" and lest we forget "dominion over...fish... foule... cattell... all the earth... every creeping thing..."

Chapter 1

27 So God created man in his owne Image, in the Image of God created hee him; male and female created hee them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said vnto them, Be fruitfull, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it, and haue dominion ouer the fish of the sea, and ouer the foule of the aire, and ouer euery liuing thing that mooueth vpon the earth.

29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I haue giuen you euery herbe bearing seede, which is vpon the face of all the earth, and euery tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yeelding seed, to you it shall be for meat:

Every tree?

30 And to euery beast of the earth, and to euery foule of the aire, and to euery thing that creepeth vpon the earth, wherein there is life, I haue giuen euery greene herbe for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw euery thing that hee had made: and behold, it was very good. And the euening and the morning were the sixth day.

Chapter 2

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, & breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a liuing soule.

8 ¶ And the LORD God planted a garden Eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow euery tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food: the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and euill.

15 And the LORD God tooke the man, and put him into the garden of Eden, to dresse it, and to keepe it.

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of euery tree of the garden thou mayest freely eate.

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and euill, thou shalt not eate of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die.

18 ¶ And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone: I will make him an helpe meet for him.

19 And out of þe ground the LORD God formed euery beast of the field, and euery foule of the aire, and brought them vnto Adam, to see what he would call them: and whatsoeuer Adam called euery liuing creature, that was the name thereof.

20 And Adam gaue names to all cattell, and to the foule of the aire, and to euery beast of the fielde: but for Adam there was not found an helpe meete for him.

21 And the LORD God caused a deepe sleepe to fall vpon Adam, and hee slept; and he tooke one of his ribs, and closed vp the flesh in stead thereof.

22 And the rib which the LORD God had taken from man, made hee a woman, & brought her vnto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shalbe called woman, because shee was taken out of man.

24 Therefore shall a man leaue his father and his mother, and shall cleaue vnto his wife: and they shalbe one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man & his wife, and were not ashamed.

Chapter 3

1 Now the serpent was more subtill then any beast of the field, which the LORD God had made, and he said vnto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of euery tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said vnto the serpent, Wee may eate of the fruite of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree, which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shal not eate of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the Serpent said vnto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.

5 For God doeth know, that in the day ye eate thereof, then your eyes shalbee opened: and yee shall bee as Gods, knowing good and euill.

Oh that sneaky snake! Enticing poor Eve...

6 And when the woman saw, that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she tooke of the fruit thereof, and did eate, and gaue also vnto her husband with her, and hee did eate.

Enlightenment? Beguilement... Deception...

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, & they knew that they were naked, and they sewed figge leaues together, and made themselues aprons.

Shame...

8 And they heard the voyce of the LORD God, walking in the garden in the coole of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselues from the presence of the LORD God, amongst the trees of the garden.

They learned their lessons well... Shame... fear....

9 And the LORD God called vnto Adam, and said vnto him, Where art thou?

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden: and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid my selfe.

11 And he said, Who told thee, that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee, that thou shouldest not eate?

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gauest to be with mee, shee gaue me of the tree, and I did eate.

Blame...Enticement...

13 And the LORD God said vnto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The Serpent beguiled me, and I did eate.

Well at least she was honest....

14 And the LORD God said vnto the Serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed aboue all cattel, and aboue euery beast of the field: vpon thy belly shalt thou goe, and dust shalt thou eate, all the dayes of thy life.

15 And I will put enmitie betweene thee and the woman, and betweene thy seed and her seed: it shal bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heele.

Does that mean someones going to get stomped on...

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorowe and thy conception. In sorow thou shalt bring forth : and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and hee shall rule ouer thee.

Boy did he ever.... See what God said about thy husband... ruling over thee.

17 And vnto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened vnto the voyce of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commaunded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eate of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake: in sorow shalt thou eate of it all the dayes of thy life.

No wonder men don't listen to their wives anymore...

18 Thornes also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee: and thou shalt eate the herbe of the field.

19 In the sweate of thy face shalt thou eate bread, till thou returne vnto the ground: for out of it wast thou taken, for dust thou art, and vnto dust shalt thou returne.

20 And Adam called his wiues name Eue, because she was the mother of all liuing.

21 Unto Adam also, and to his wife, did the LORD God make coates of skinnes, and cloathed them.

22 ¶ And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of vs, to know good & euill. And now lest hee put foorth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eate and liue for euer:

Was this when man lost his immortality... for the bite of an apple... because he failed the test... jeez so harsh... what an authoritarian God was... And God never even gave Adam & Eve a warning of the cost of their potential disobedience... Don't you think he should have said something like "if you disobey me on my prohibition on the tree of life there will be serious consequences" How were they to know that it should have been named the tree of lose your immortality if you eat from me?

23 Therefore the LORD God sent him foorth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground, from whence he was taken.

24 So he droue out the man: and he placed at the East of the garden of Eden, Cherubims, and a flaming sword, which turned euery way, to keepe the way of the tree of life.

So man has been looking for that garden and the tree of life ever since...

end quote.

Soon the baring and begetting began... Those horny little devils look what they started.

You better get familiar with all this if you aren't already as the Right wing is in charge now.

Well anyway to get back on track...

The practice of using laugh tracks for sitcoms versus real people and how they were chosen for the job was discussed. People were interviewed and gave samples of their laughs of course. For the shows the laughers were guided as to what types of laughs were to be used for the different situations. Having people laughing on command for the "funny" sections tends to pull you into the humor and cause you to laugh along also. Why is that?

It was discussed how people don't laugh when they are alone which seems to be somewhat true. The definition of alone may be a little different from what you think though. You see because laughter is a communication technique. It is used to communicate things found to be funny but it is also used to ease tension in a potentially dangerous situation or to put someone at ease. It can be used to communicate an interest in getting closer to someone or to express acceptance or even can indicate status like when everybody laughs harder at the bosses stupid jokes. When you are with someone and watching TV or listening to the radio or a recording or reading something and something funny occurs you laugh and usually out loud. But when you are alone you may not laugh so much or so loudly or at least differently then when there is someone there. If the TV is on and you are watching something funny or you are listening to the radio you are more likely to laugh at something funny then if you are simply thinking something funny. Laughing when the TV is on may be because you are not really alone if you are imagining someone else being there such as the TV or radio entertainer or even a character in a book.

Laughing certainly can be contagious as I'm sure you have seen before but can it actually be a contagion?

apa.org/monitor/jun06/laughing.aspx

sitcom articles/200011/the-science-laughter

They also talked about how there was a case of what appeared to be a mass hysterical laughter outbreak that started in a school in Tanzania in 1962.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_laughter_epidemic

Tanganyika laughter epidemic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Tanganyika laughter epidemic of 1962 was an outbreak of mass hysteria – or mass psychogenic illness (MP – rumored to have occurred in or near the village of Kashasha on the western coast of Lake Victoria in the modern nation of Tanzania (formerly Tanganyika) near the border of Uganda.

History
The laughter epidemic began on January 30, 1962, at a mission-run boarding school for girls in Kashasha. The laughter started with three girls and spread haphazardly throughout the school, affecting 95 of the 159 pupils, aged 12–18. Symptoms lasted from a few hours to 16 days in those affected. The<b> teaching </font></b>staff were not affected but reported that students were unable to concentrate on their lessons. The school was forced to close down on March 18, 1962.

After the school was closed and the students were sent home, the epidemic spread to Nshamba, a village that was home to several of the girls. In April and May, 217 people had laughing attacks in the village, most of them being school and young adults. The Kashasha school was reopened on May 21, only to be closed again at the end of June. In June, the laughing epidemic spread to Ramashenye girls’ middle school, near Bukoba, affecting 48 girls.

The school from which the epidemic sprang was sued; the and parents transmitted it to the surrounding area. Other schools, Kashasha itself, and another village, comprising thousands of people, were all affected to some degree. Six to eighteen months after it started, the phenomenon died off. The following symptoms were reported on an equally massive scale as the reports of the laughter itself: pain, fainting, flatulence, respiratory problems, rashes, attacks of crying, and random screaming. In total 14 schools were shut down and 1000 people were affected.

Causes
Charles F. Hempelmann of Purdue University has theorized that the episode was stress-induced. In 1962 Tanganyika had just won its independence, he said, and students had reported feeling stressed because of higher expectations by teachers and parents. MPI, he says, usually occurs in people without a lot of power. "MPI is a last resort for people of a low status. It's an easy way for them to express that something is wrong."
End Quote.

Well I know I have found the late shows funny particularly since Trump started his run for the presidency. I certainly found myself laughing out loud many times, though admittedly probably not as loud as I would have been had someone else been here with me. Now I think we will be needing that laughter more and more as January gets closer. Hopefully it never gets to the point where it turns into hysterical laughter to relieve stress.

Vive La Difference


wickedeasy 74F
32404 posts
11/14/2016 9:54 am

I've read the bible. one straight through like a book. once for a class, and another time for another reason entirely. it's interesting. it also bites itself in the ass a million ways....but that's another story...smiles

I also laugh out loud when i'm alone although I do have a dog in he house so that may make a difference. I rarely laugh at sitcoms though.

I laugh when I read fairly frequently.

You cannot conceive the many without the one.


tickles4us replies on 11/14/2016 10:25 pm:
I started to read the Bible through once but I didn't make it. I have read lots of bit and pieces though and did make it most of the way through before I got tired of the crap.

I laugh at humorous stuff even if by myself but I do agree with what the researchers were saying in that if I think of something funny I'm more likely to not laugh out loud then burst into laughter but I may let a chuckle sneak out.

maggeemay 56F
320 posts
11/14/2016 3:28 am

I rely on VPR as the soundtrack in the background of my day.


tickles4us replies on 11/14/2016 10:19 pm:
I find myself listening to VPR a lot also. They have lots of interesting stuff on there.

sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
11/13/2016 2:20 pm

You found a very interesting post for today hugs V

Become a blog watcher sweet_vm


tickles4us replies on 11/13/2016 4:34 pm:
Well I just heard the radio story...

redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
11/13/2016 6:09 am

Do you think tax payer dollars should be spent on studying things like whether or not animals laugh or do you just not give a shit about such frivolous shit?
One of many things the ignorant among us forget is that a number of things have been invented or found by studying something else.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


tickles4us replies on 11/13/2016 2:02 pm:
Indeed, very many things.

spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
11/13/2016 3:35 am

I've got no problem in money being spent on understanding whether animals laugh. Quite often it's this pure - some say frivolous - research that leads to the most interesting and useful findings.
Often research funding is justified on the usefulness of research in advance of it being done, so-called appled research, but humans often can't know what they'll find.
Sticky notes were invented by the company who wanted to find a super-adhesive. Einstein's theories of relativity and quantum mechanics were argely formulated without any supporting evidence; the evidence was found by others much later.


tickles4us replies on 11/13/2016 2:00 pm:
I don't have objections to most research but I have seen somethings that were very dubious to say the least. I think studying the species human and others is a good thing.

Furbal1972 51M
18571 posts
11/12/2016 10:57 pm

I do still have a few bibles lying around. They're gathering dust, but would be useful for knocking somebody upside the head.

I wrote a post once wondering if cats had a sense of humor. They can make a lot of sounds, but they only laugh in cartoons.

Laugh tracks are so annoying.

I was so sick of the Trump humor on late-night TV. .. I wanted something fresh and different. .. Now his orange face is going to be on the TV for four more years. amp; .. I could go into hysterics!

Read my diary Journal of a Taxi Driver for taxi stories and pictures of flowers and trees.


tickles4us replies on 11/12/2016 11:14 pm:
Keep those bibles around you may need to prove you're a Christian to stay in the country before long...

Maybe cats laugh inside...

The older laugh tracks were really annoying.

I was hoping to be rid of Trump too but it seems we will have to be tolerant... I can't imagine him doing a state of the union address.

tickles4us 62M
7262 posts
11/12/2016 10:26 pm

Better get your Bible out and start practicing thumping it....

Vive La Difference


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